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Looking at the Well Hall we have lost, Nell Gwynne's Cottages, 1908

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Now I never tire of writing about Well Hall and in particular during the mid 19th century.

This will always be one of those fascinating times for me when many of our small rural communities were about to be transformed by the Industrial Revolution.

In the township of Chorlton where I live the economy had depended on supplying food for the growing giant of Manchester just four miles away but by the end of the 19th century the city had all but claimed the place.

From the 1880s much of the farm land to the north of the village was turned into houses and in 1904 we voted to join the city.

Well Hall held out longer but not by much, and so this photograph of the cottages just north of the Pleasaunce is a reminder of what we have lost.

I have writtenabout them in the past and today want to do no more than feature this image of them.*

It has been taken from Eltham Through Time by Kristina Bedford.**

I have seen other images of the cottages but never one on colour which makes it a fascinating one.
Of course they never were Nell Gywnne's but there will be those who still like to think so.

Picture; Nell Gywnne’s Cottages, Well Hall 1908, from Eltham Through Time

*From New York to Well Hall, the story of the Cooper family in the 1850s http://chorltonhistory.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/from-new-york-to-well-hall-story-of.html

Picture; courtesy of Kristina Bedford from her new book Eltham Through Time, Amberley Publishing, 2013,

Ms Bedford also has an interesting web site, Ancestral Deeds, http://www.ancestraldeeds.co.uk/


The story that never was ....... a road, a disused railway station and lots of water

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So, there Peter was, taking pictures down by the old station which continues to live in Chorlton folklore as the place where Muddy Waters, Cousin Joe Pleasant, Sister Rosetta Thorpe, Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee performed on May 7 1964.

This was the Blues and Gospel train at Chorltonville which of course was really Wilbraham Road station which had once been Alexandra Park.

The station had opened as Alexandra Park on September 1 1891 and its name was changed to Wilbraham Road eight months later to avoid confusion with a London station with a similar name.

“The station was situated on the MSLR’ Fallowfield Loop line, a 7 mile double track route that linked the Midland Railway’s Manchester South District Line from a point just to the south of Chorlton-cum-Hardy to the MSL main line between Manchester and Sheffield at Fairfield. The reason for the line was to give the MLSR access to Manchester Central Station.”*

During the Great War it was where aircraft parts were unloaded to be reassembled at Alexandra Park Aerodrome.**

And that marks the station off as both a place in our history and of course the station many get wrong.

Ask most people about Granada’s Blues show on that rainy May evening and they will tell you it was at Chorlton Railway Station which would have been difficult given that trains still ran from Central through Chorlton and on to Stockport and Derbyshire.

Not so Wilbraham Road which closed for passenger traffic in 1958 and there I suspect is why history has forgotten the place.

None of which is actually the story I had intended to write.

That, concerned the road and railings that Peter came across while down at the old station.

Our following conversation ranged over a bundle of possibilities.  I favoured a possible road link with the aerodrome which was built at the end of the Great War on Hough End. Aircraft parts came in bits by train and were reassembled at the aerodrome.

But while it was on the south side of the railway track its direction seemed wrong.

Equally intriguing were the line of iron railings which once must have marked the boundary of the railway line and could go back to 1880 when the line was opened.

Peter pondered on why they had not been lost to war salvage, but this may have been because of the need to maintain that demarcation between railway and non railway land.  Or perhaps they just date from after the war.

There is a similar little stretch on St Werburgh's Road, running north from the metro entrance.

Sadly I doubt we will ever get to the bottom of the railings but at least we have an explanation for the road, which according to the 1934 OS map is not a road but a covering for the Thirlmere Aqueduct which was built between 1894 and 1925 and brings water from the Thirlmere Reservoir into the city.

So the story didn’t quite turn out the way I thought.

Location; Wilbraham Road Railway Station

Pictures; lost railway scenes, 2018 from the collection of Peter Topping

This Is London ........ a unique guide to the London of 1959

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Now I have no idea why I never got a copy of This Is London.*

I guess that there are only so many books that you can get for Christmas, and with the Eagle Annual and the odd history book that was enough.

Not that I think I would fully have appreciated it back then when I was only ten all of which is so different now.

It is a witty, informative guide to the London I knew as a child and is full of marvellous images in the style of the period and these alone take me back nearly sixty years.

But it is also the humour which shines through and marks it as something original.

It starts with a page of brown sludge with the occasional splash of yellow accompanied with “Well, this is London. 

 But don’t worry, it is hidden in fog like this only a few times a year in winter. Most of the time it looks- like this!”

And that is the start of a wonderful series of bright colourful and exciting paintings of London with a text to match.

All of which is a riveting read and one that has now become a history book in itself.

So much so that the new edition which was published in 2004** has updated some of the entries,  pointing out for instance that “Today the Billingsgate fish market is located in the Docklands, a rejuvenated section of the London Docks.  It moved there in 1982.”

Now that move passed me by and while I have no doubt it was for the best I have vivid memories of the market, the over powering smell and the debris left on the streets on a Saturday morning only hours after the traders and the fish had left for shops across the city.

It is just one of the moments which bounced out of the past along with those electric milk floats, old Routemasters and a river which was still a working river full of ships from every corner of the world unloading their cargoes under the shadows of tall cranes and massive warehouses.

All of which I remember and for those like my own lads who never knew that London, Mr Sasek’s book has it all.

And so as you would expect I have gone looking for other editions in the same series which included, Paris, Rome, New York, and San Francisco.

In time I might order up the reprints of New York, and San Francisco but at present I am content to wait for the arrival of This is Rome which was originally published in 1960 and reprinted in 2007.

Like This is London it has an page of updates which will be fun to match with the original text and my own memories of a city we regularly return to.

Now I would like to have used images from the book and even wrote the story using the cover and one of the Underground, but the no one seems to know who holds the copyright and so without permission it is a picture postcard from 1950 and a photograph of a typical 1960s living room.

Such are the joys of being correct about copyright.


And for those intrigued by the books there is a sitededicated to the authors and his books***


Pictures; Trafalgar Square, 1950 from the collection of Tuck & Sons, courtesy of Tuck DB, http://tuckdb.org/ and a living room 1965, © Chris Ridley/Geffrye Museum of the Home, Geffrye Museum, www.geffrye-museum.org.uk

*This Is London, Miroslav Sasek, 1959

**Universe Publishing, a Division of  Rizzoli International Publications, New York, www.rizzoliusa.com

***This is M Sasek, http://www.miroslavsasek.com/index.html

A day in the Quays ......... celebrating Salford

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There may be some who mutter this isn’t really Salford, not the one I remember, and that will be true.

But all places change and reinvent themselves and Mr Muggins in 1760 may well have reflected that the grand Victorian buildings that rose on the streets of Salford weren’t to his taste.

So here are some of Andy Robertson’s pictures of Salford taken on a bright sunny day in 2017.

Location; Salford

Pictures, Salford, 2017 from the collection of Andy Robertson



A picture a day, the Beech and Oven Door Bakery 1978

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A picture a day

During this week of May I have decided to feature a picture a day, drawn from the collections that span a century and more of Chorlton




Picture; from the collection of Tony Walker

It started with a picture and became a story.......... Charles Ireland

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The Palais de Luxe, circa 1928
It started with a picture and became a story.

The picture was of the Palais de Luxe Cinema on Barlow Moor Road and is not one I had seen before.

In that usual way of things it was in the possession of the archives and public records centre of East Dunbartonshire Council and got there because the fine iron and glass canopy which fronted the cinema had been made by the Lion Foundry in Kirkintilloch.

The story unfolded as the archivist and I sought to resolve the copyright issue of the photograph.

Ms Janice Miller was keen for me to see the picture but quite rightly was concerned that this might contravene the 70 year rule on copyright usage.

The photograph was by C Ireland and may have been taken around 1928 and that was all there was to go on. He might have been a local photographer or one especially commissioned by the Lion Foundry who came down from Scotland or just possibly one of those travelling photographers who captured local scenes to be converted into post cards.

Now both of us were fully prepared for a disappointment. After all we had just a name which is not much to go on.

But a Charles Ireland ran a photographic shop at 25 Lower Mosley Street in town during the first decade of the last century and continued in business there to at least 1927. The same set of telephone directories also revealed that by 1921 he was living at 76 High Lane here in Chorlton.

It is one of those amazing things about detective work that once the first secrets of a person’s life come to light others bubble up in front of you.

He had died in 1930 aged 63, left £5,330 to his widow and was buried in Southern Cemetery. He had been born in Newton in Manchester in 1867 and by 1891 the family were living here on St Clements Road.

This seems to have been a step up. The family home on Oldham Road in Newton was at the heart of an industrial area. Just to the north was the large carriage and wagon works of the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway and to the south and east there were brick works cotton mills, bleach works as well a glass works.

25 Lower Mosley Street, 1964

Charles’s father Edward was in partnership as a pawnbroker although he also described himself as a photographer, and by 1891 this appears to have been his sole occupation.

There were as yet few photographers listed in the directories for Manchester in the 1880s and they are still described as artists.

By 1895 he had opened the shop on Lower Mosley Street which Charles still ran until the late 1920s.

The family continued to prosper and by 1911 they have moved to that large detached house on the corner of Edge Lane and Kingshill Road.

76 High Lane, date unknown

As ever the romantic in me fastened on the fact that in 1913 Charles married his photographic assistant. Edith May Hindley was 32 years old and like him had been born in Newton.

Sometime perhaps around 1918 they moved into 76 High Lane which had been the home of the artist Tom Mostyn the artist.

 It is still there having benefited from the addition of the large upstairs window and studio which I guess was the work of Tom Mostyn and which Charles in turn may have used.

I have yet to visit the grave in Southern Cemetery but it is on my list of things to do. Here he was buried along with his father and mother in law, his sister and finally in 1948 his wife

So far no other pictures accredited to Charles have turned up but they will. His working life stretched back over 40 years and the picture of 76 High Lane may even be his although sadly there is no date and the quality is pretty poor.

But I travel in hope that out there in a collection I will come across more of his pictures. Ms Janice Miller and the East Dunbartonshire archive can only be the first.

Location; Chorlton and Manchester

Pictures; the Palais de Luxe cinema, circa 1928 GD10-07-04-6-13-01 Courtesy of East Dunbartonshire Archives, 25 Lower Mosley Street by H W Beaumont 1964 m02915, Courtesy of Manchester Libraries, Information and Archives, Manchester City Council, & 76 High Lane, date unknown, from the Lloyd collection

One hundred years of one house in Chorlton part 103 ......... the Negroni

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Thecontinuing story of the house Joe and Mary Ann Scott lived in for over 50 years and the families that have lived here since.*

A Negroni
Now I wonder what Joe and Mary Ann would have made of a Negroni which is that iconic Italian cocktail, made of one part gin, one part vermouth rosso, and one part Campari, garnished with orange peel.

It is of course just what you need on a hot summer’s day, when you walk through the front door in the early evening making a bee line for the garden, and a chair in the sun.

That said I only discovered it recently, and we were not in Florence where the drink originated but on Burton Road on a very wet and grey afternoon.

But the drink lifted me and yesterday, as the sun cracked the paving stones I decided to make the cocktail.

Of course I will never know whether either Joe or Mary Ann liked cocktails or for that matter whether they drank at all and if they did what their favourite drink might have been.

Sadly there are few people now who remember them and I would be surprised if they knew what Mr and Mrs Scott drank.

Beech Road circa late 1940s
It would be easy and lazy to fall back on stereotypical historical assumptions and jump to the conclusion that Joe went for beer and that Mary Ann liked the odd glass of sherry, given that they were both born in the 1880s, grew to maturity as the new century turned over and were just up the road from four pubs.

What I found fascinating is that the cocktail was already nearly 30 years old when they were born.

According to one source the first reference to a cocktail was in 1860 and two years later there are cocktail recipes included in a guide for bartenders.**

Beech Road
And in 1917, just  two years after they moved into our house, there was allegedly, the first cocktail party held by a Mrs Julius S Walsh Jr of St Louis, Missouri.

Now Chorlton in 1917 is a long way from St Louis, Missouri in 1917, but the Scott’s were adept at embracing change.  Their house was built without gas lighting using electricity instead, they had a telephone by 1925 and and a television just thirty years later.

So I have no reason to think that on a warm evening after a day building Chorlton’s houses Joe and Mary Ann would not have settled down to a Brandy Alexander, Savoy Corpse Reviver or the intriguingly named the Tom and Jerry.

All of which I will leave you to look up, but as I have already done so I know I will be happiest with that Negroni.

Location; Chorlton

Picture; a Negroni, March 24 2009, Geoff Peters from Vancouver, BC, Canada, licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 Generic license and Beech Road circa late 1940s from the Lloyd Collection.

*The story of a house,   https://chorltonhistory.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/The%20story%20of%20a%20house 

**Cocktails,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocktail

The church ..... on a May morning .... from Ryan

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Now I always look forward to the pictures Ryan posts of Eltham.

They are usually taken on his way to work when the day is just beginning and everything looks fresh with the promise of all that is to come.

This is one of my favourites, posted today on a social network site, and just makes me think of home.

Location; Eltham



















Picture; our parish church, 2018, from the collection of Ryan Ginn


Who remembers Tudors of Eltham? ......... Peter's story

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Now this is less a history story and more a mystery investigation.

It began with a picture of an old van in a lane in Footscray and yes once again it was my friend Jean who supplied the picture and contributed much to the search.

The van belonged to Tudors of Eltham who were listed at 58-60 Well Hall Road.  I vaguely remember the name but that is about it.

The van was registered in 1985 and was bought minus its engine in 1990 from a firm in Maidstone, its new owner having responded out of nothing more than simple curiosity to an advert. that said"Large van for sale- no Tax, no Insurance and no Engine."

Jean has added "He found that the story behind this had a bizzare twist- it seems that the van's previous owners, who may have been Tudors of Eltham, had trouble with the engine, and let someone dismantle it and take it away for repair but sadly the said mechanic never returned.

However, he bought the van anyway as it was cheap and he thought it would make a good 'mobile shed'. 

Towing it home was not without danger though as another driver - not seeing the towing rope-cut across him whilst coming over Maidstone Bridge, almost dividing him from life and limb and his new-found bargain of a lifetime."

Today 58-60 Well Hall Road is occupied by another furniture company who have been trading on the spot since 1991.

Jean remembers that back in the 1960s and 70s the shop “was, a branch of Jones Brothers, timber merchants and most of the wood in my house was bought at this shop,” which I rather think was where dad bought his wood from as well.

And just to add to the mist I remember the entrance on the extreme left of the parade of shops being a branch of the Ministry of Empolyment  because it was there at the tender age of 16 I went for a National Insurance card.

So there is the mystery, when were Tudors of Eltham on Well Hall Road, and who remembers them?

At this point of course the historian in me mutters it should be possible to track them down with a directory, but who wants to spoil a mystery?

Pictures; from the collection of Jean Gammons.

The tram that takes you to the Quays ........ number 1

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Now there is nothing better than the tram that takes you to the Quays, with that added bonus that you can change at Harbour City and go all the way to Eccles.

So here is the first of Andy’s new series.

This one I really like.

Location, on the way to Salford





Picture; tram over the water, 2017, from the collection of Andy Robertson

A picture a day .... Beech Road circa 1910

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A picture a day

During this week of May I have decided to feature a picture a day, drawn from the collections that span a century and more of Chorlton






















Picture; from the collection of the Rita Bishop Collection

The Manchester of 1894

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I have spent part of the afternoon looking through a wonderful collection of pictures of Manchester from the late 19th century.

They come from a three volume collection published in 1894 under the title Manchester Old and New.  It was written by William Arthur Shaw and the 300 illustrations ranging from small pictures set into the text to full page paintings were by Henry Tidmarsh.

These for me are the real attraction of the books.  True, some might be dismissed as chocolate box illustrations with a romantic hue, but many were of the less prestigious streets and highways while others like the Rochdale coke and gas works vividly bring to life an industrial scene long gone.

Location; Manchester

Pictures; from Manchester Old and New published in three volumes in 1894 by Cassell, text by William Arthur Shaw, illustrations by Henry Tidmarsh

Hough End Hall reveals a few more bits of its history

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Hough End Hall dates back to the late 1590s, and has been a posh home for the landed gentry, a farm house for 250 years, more recently was a restaurant and briefly a set of offices.

Hough End Hall in 1849
Despite that long history there is very little left.  The grand staircase now resides in Tatton Hall, while the old wooden ceiling beams had been encased in pretend oak beams and then hidden under a false ceiling.

Added to which some of the exterior suffered from what was described as unsympathetic restoration in the 1960s and the upper storey has been closed off for at least half a century.

So, it is not a happy tale and one which in the 1920s could even have been a story of demolition to make way for what is now Mauldeth Road West.

Upstairs, 1964
Today there are a dwindling number of people who can talk about the building when it was still part of a farm, a few more who will have memories of playing in the place when it was empty and more who dined and danced the night away when it was a successful restaurant.

But by the time people ate their steak dinners, and listened to live music both the ground floor and the first floor had been gutted and were just two open spaces.

I do have a series of pictures in the collection which features in stories of the Hall. *

They include the garden and the last family who lived there, along with detailed plans commissioned by the Egerton family in the 1930s, but nothing of the interior features.

And as these things go I suspected I would never come across any evidence other than anecdotal of what the inside was like.

All of that has changed with a remarkable set of photographs which have been added to the City Library’s collection of images.**

The roof space, 1964
"The Town Hall Photographer’s Collection is a large photographic collection held in Manchester City Council’s Central Library archives, ranging in date from 1956 to 2007.

The collection consists of tens of thousands of images, covering the varied areas of work of Manchester Corporation and latterly, Manchester City Council.

The photographs were taken by staff photographers, who were tasked to document the work of Corporation/Council departments and, in doing so, captured many aspects of Manchester life and history, including significant changes to the Manchester landscape.

The collection includes many different formats from glass negatives, to slides, prints, CDs and even a couple of cine films.

What is especially exciting is that the majority of these images have never before been available in a digital format and therefore have only ever been seen by a handful of people.

Looking out through the roof space, 1964
A team of dedicated Staff and Volunteers are currently working on the systematic digitisation of the negatives held within the collection."**

And that brings me to the Hough End Hall pictures, which appear to have been taken on March 25 1964, possibly as the building was passing out of the hands of the Bailey family to a developer and they may have been taken as part of the process of determining the Hall’s future in relation a planning applications.

Some show the upstairs rooms minus the fireplaces, others the roof space and others again a staircase up to the lost second floor.

Wattle and daub wall, 1964
This now hidden floor was once home to some of the staff who worked the land when Hough End Hall was at the centre of a 250 acre farm.

My own favourite is a picture which shows one of the original wattle and daub interior walls which I guess must date back to the late 16th century when the Hall was built.

All of which just reinforces that old observation that the past is never fixed and there is always something new waiting around the corner to offer up a fresh bit of the story.

Location; Hough End Hall, as was Withington

Pictures; Hough End Hall in 1849, from The Family Memoirs, Sir Oswald Mosley, 1849, interior of the Hall, March 1964, an upstairs room, 19640758, in the roof space 1964 0743 and the wattle and daub wall, 1964 0759,https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=55918222%40N02&text=hough%20end%20hall&view_all=1


*Hough End Hallhttps://chorltonhistory.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Hough%20End%20Hall

**Manchester Archives+ Photos, Hough End Hall, https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=55918222%40N02&text=hough%20end%20hall&view_all=1




The tram that takes you to the Quays ...... number 2 .... getting closer

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Now there is nothing better than the tram that takes you to the Quays, with that added bonus that you can change at Harbour City and go all the way to Eccles.


So here is the second of Andy’s new series which is another one I really like.

Location, on the way to Salford







Picture; getting closer, 2017, from the collection of Andy Robertson

When history got postponed ....... the walk in Chorlton number 3

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As the growing number of fans of the The Quirks walks through our past, will testify, an afternoon with me and Peter Topping, can be fun, interesting and rewarding.

So far we have done two history walks since April, based around the popular book, The Quirks of Chorlton-cum-Hardy which we published in December 2017.

Over sixty people have turned out for those first two walks, and the third was planned for Sunday May 27, but alas a summer cold has done for my voice, and while I could mime and Peter could sing, I doubt that would be enough.

So we will not now be walking from the Lloyds to the Creameries this Sunday, but given that colds vanish with the application of medications and time, the walk will still be on for later in the summer.

Just watch this space.

A picture a day ... The Police station Beech Road circa 1920

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A picture a day

During this week of May I have decided to feature a picture a day, drawn from the collections that span a century and more of Chorlton.

Location; Beech Road, Chorlton-cum-Hardy




Picture; from the Lloyd Collection, circa 1920

In Well Hall in the April of 1851

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History is messy and rarely fits with that neat simplistic model we were taught at school. 

So take for example that idea that people rarely travelled and that most of us would have lived our life in the same village amongst the same people in communities that pretty much stayed the same.

Well even before the 19th century I doubt that this was completely accurate, and certainly by the middle decades of that century people were on the move and Well Hall was no exception.

Had you walked Well Hall Lane in the spring of 1851 you would have heard accents from all over the south and east of England mixed with some from the far west and north as well as Ireland.

Look closely at the 1851 census and there is evidence that while a parent might have been born in Eltham the children were born elsewhere and only later did the family return.

One such couple were George and Francis Cooper.  In 1851 he was 42 and she was 36 and they had been in New York.

I don’t suppose we will get to know why they went to America or why they returned.  But the fact that they did is evidenced by their children two of whom were born in New York in 1839 and 1842.

Perhaps the clue is in the fact that George described himself as a servant so perhaps they crossed the Atlantic with an employer.  Either way they were back here in Greenwich by 1844 for the birth of their third child and there they still were in 1849.

They were both from Surrey and were part of the 30% of Well Hall residents who had not been born in Eltham.  Now most of this 30% were from Kent, but that still left others who were from as far away as Yorkshire and Ireland.

Part of the explanation was that those who employed domestic servants preferred not to use locals for no one wanted the secrets of the household to become the gossip of the neighbourhood which explains why none of the vicar’s six servants were from Eltham.

But in other ways Well Hall was typical of a small rural community.  Most of the workforce was engaged in agriculture either as labourers or in trades related to farming and these included four blacksmiths and two bailiffs.

And there is much more but that as they say is for another time.

Location;Well Hall, London

Pictures; Tudor Barn, Well Hall courtesy of Scott MacDonald, and data from the 1851 census, Enu 1b, Eltham Kent

Looking for the family on Mincing Street in 1895

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Here  is a bit of a detective story .


Mincing Street, 1895
It is June 1895 and even without checking the newspapers for the week I can tell it was a warm day by the number of people out on the street.

Of course it may have just been  the presence of C.H. Godfrey with a camera that drew an audience.

The family may even have been asked to pose for the shot.

Either way the presence of a photographer in a working class part of the city five full years before the beginning of the last century was bound to pull a crowd.

Posing for the photographer, 1895
The fact that there were not more may have been down to it being a workday.

But this was still a time when a camera was a novelty and as soon as the photographer set up it drew the curious, the vain and more than a few who had just not seen the new art of photography working its magic in front of them.

And for us there is a lot to see, from the family group including the chap with a cup of something in his hand to the woman at the corner house watching both the cameraman and the cat.

What first drew me in was the pub on the extreme right hand side.

This was the Lord Derby which in 1895 was run by Thomas s Harrop and in 1911 by Mrs Edith Williams.

Mr Harrop has yet to show up on official documents but I know from the 1911 census that Mrs Williams was a widow who had been married for 42 years and was assisted by her son in law and daughter.*

The Lord Derby
The Lord Derby was on Dantzic Street and had seven rooms which marked it above many of the properties in the area.

And then as you do I wondered about the eight people in front of us.

It started with their names, because once armed with an identity it is possible to start a search for who they were.

And a  name might lead to an entry in the census returns with their ages, places of birth and occupations.

Added to which it would allow us to access the rate books which in turn would offer up details of the houses, from their rateable value to the rents that were charged.

And finally using the 1911 census it would be possible to discover the number of rooms in three two houses.

But all of that hangs on a name and there we have come unstuck.

If I were in Central Ref I could go through the pages of the Rate Book looking for Mincing Street and there for 1895 would be the names of the tenants and the landowner.

But sitting here at home the alternative in the short term is the directories, but sadly the residents of Mincing Street proved too unimportant to be listed.

So all that is left to say is that our three properties may have been back to back houses and that what appears to be a street corner on the extreme left was the entrance to a closed court comprising of nine properties four of which were back to back.

The Derby Arms and Nelson Street which became Mincing Street, 1893
I say they were back to back because that is what the maps from the 1850s and 1893 suggest, but no research ever goes smoothly, and the 1911 census records the nine houses on Mincing Street as possessing  four rooms.

So there is lots more to do but in the meantime for the really curious I shall leave you with this.

The fencing high up behind the pub was part of the protective wall around the old St Michael’s graveyard.

There will be more but not yet.


Picture; Mincing Street with a family on step, 1899, C.H. Godfrey, m03380, courtesy of Manchester Libraries, Information and Archives, Manchester City Council, http://images.manchester.gov.uk/index.php?session=pass and Nelson Street in 1893 from the OS for South Lancashire, courtesy of Digital Archives Association, http://digitalarchives.co.uk/

*Census, Enu 02 183, St Georges Manchester, Lancashire, 1911

** Census, Enu 02 245-253, St Georges Manchester, Lancashire, 1911


Remembering the eight children of Charles, Elizabeth, and Hannah Sharp ....... Ashton under Lyne in the 19th century

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It will have been sometime in the summer of 1979 that I came across this grave stone in the parish church in Ashton-Under-Lyne.

The gravestone, the parish church yard, 1979
I had wandered past it for years and never really noticed it, but on that day by chance I stopped and looked at the memorial to the eight children of Charles, Elizabeth and Hannah Sharp who all died between 1839 and 1843.

Of the eight, only one reached the age of 18 with other seven dying between the ages of 2 months and one year and a bit.

It is a powerful reminder of the level of infant mortality in the not so distant past and is one that I have used over the years to illustrate just how uncertain were the chances of surviving to the age of 5.

And while I had transcribed it and included it in stories and articles, I have never reproduced the original memorial stone or gone looking for the family.

But today I have done just that and it has been a slow process taking up a big part of a morning and even now I have not got very far.

I know that Mr Sharp was married three times, and that his wives were Elizabeth, Hannah, and Sarah.

His marriage to Hannah took place in what is now Manchester Cathedral in June 1834 and he married Sarah in 1851 in Ashton-Under-Lyne.

This third marriage was sometime between January and March, and in April they are recorded as living at 10 Old Cross which was close to the parish church.  He described his occupation as “Hair  dresser and seedsman”, which chimes in with an earlier reference in 1828 to him in a directory as living on Old Street and earning a living as a “seedsman”.

In 1861 they had moved to the small village of Hotham where he continued to describe himself as a “seedsman” but also as a “Lodge Gate Keeper”.*

The children
Of his children I have so far only come across a reference to the baptism and death of Charles Slater Sharp, which occurred in 1843 but in time the others may come out of the shadows.

As it is, the death of Thomas aged 18 in 1839 might offer a clue as to his father’s marriage to Elizabeth which must be sometime at the start of the 1820s if not earlier.

I doubt we will ever know why Charles and Sarah moved to Yorkshire.

Places the Sharp's would have known, Ashton-Under-Lyne, 1854
It may be that they were returning to his birth county or perhaps the tiny rural village offered job opportunities and a quality of life which was no longer the case in Ashton.  Mr Piggot’s Directory for 1828 had commented that “its new streets are well built and contain many good and some elegant residences; but the old streets are narrow” and while in 1826, “the number of steam engines in Ashton was thirty-four, ..... at this period [1828] the number and power has greatly increased”, which was to continue into the 1860s.

By comparison, Hotham in 1825 contained just 62 houses and 203 inhabitants, which by 2011 had only grown to 233.**

Of course there is that darker and sadder explanation which falls back on the need to move away from such a litany of tragedy.

Location Ashton-Under-Lyne

Picture; the gravestone of the Sharp family, 1979, parish church, Ashton-Under-Lyne, from the collection of Andrew Simpson, and Old Ssquare, close to where the Sharp's lived, from the OS, Lancashire, 1854, courtesy of Digital Archives Association, http://digitalarchives.co.uk/

*Pigots Directory, 1828, Census Enu 1s 2 Ashton-Under-Lyne, Hotham Yorkshire, 1861, page 214

**A Topographical Dictionary of the United Kingdom, Benjamin Pitts Capper, 1825, page 432

The story that isn’t .......... down on Wright Street by Chester Road behind the Vimto Block

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Now, many of us are familiar with the work of Andy Robertson, who has been recording the changing landscape of the Twin Cities and beyond for a decade and a bit.

2018
He begins with a derelict or empty property, and then returns at stages, as the building is renovated or more likely demolished.

By degree, he then carries on chronicling the progress from the moment the builders break ground and onto the finished building.

But today he offers up an intriguing set of pictures which he says are of “Wright Street which runs parallel to Chester Road behind the Vimto Block.

2016
This is unusual as it depicts the demolition of a building before it was even properly constructed!”

There will be someone on the know who will wade in with chapter and verse, so I shall await their contribution.

In the meantime here is the sequence of pictures taken from May 25th of this year back to May 2014.



2014
Location; off Chester Road

Pictures; Wright Street, 2014-2018, from the collection of Andy Robertson
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